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My guest today is Justin Ishbia. Justin is the Founding Partner of Shore Capital. Shore is a private equity firm that invests in microcap businesses within industry niches. With $7 billion in capital deployed but an average transaction size of just $12 million, Justin has worked to build a system to drive success for hundreds of businesses through replicable operating procedures and championing young professionals. 
The firm has created a moat around volume with nearly 600 acquisitions over the last three years, some of the highest numbers in the world. We discuss identifying growth prospects, constructing a meaningful board, and the business mentality behind “main street,” not wall street, as Justin puts it. Please enjoy my conversation with Justin Ishbia. 

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Show Notes:
(00:03:10) – (first question) – “The system is the star” and how it applies to Shore Capital 
(00:07:10) – Shore Capital’s origin story
(00:12:48) – What the perfect type of deal looks like for Justin 
(00:16:34) – The historical rates of return for their deals 
(00:18:12) – Shore Capital’s defensibility and strategic advantages 
(00:22:13) – Their board system and incentive structure 
(00:28:20) – Why they focus on the industrial subsector 
(00:31:21) – Overview of thesis evaluation and generation 
(00:37:24) – What they’re looking for during the diligence stage
(00:40:45) – The bad reputation of levered rollups    
(00:43:57) – What he’s learned about negotiations
(00:46:39) – The weak points of Shore Capital’s system
(00:48:59) – The Innovation Stack; Thinking about stacking unfair advantages 
(00:52:11) – Selling a business and what buyers are looking for  
(00:55:08) – Heavy focus on operations and their portfolio performance group 
(00:58:00) – Why nobody above an associate level has ever left Shore Capital 
(00:60:46) – Lessons learned becoming the owner of a major sports franchise 
(01:03:56) – What’s surprising about how the league functions 
(01:05:05) – Key people and firms he’s learned the most from 
(01:07:17) – Where Shore Capital’s system could improve the most 
(01:11:06) – The kindest thing anyone has ever done for Justin